Master Debating

by AlvinBlah on June 8, 2007 |   Trackback URI   |     Email This Post Email This Post   |   6 Views  

The Christian Science Monitor has came out with an article about the CNN debate formats and the imbalance of time offered to the lower tier candidates.

The entire debate format should be challenged. Most of the questions in the debates focused on fluffy issues, like “what does morality mean to you”. This kind of bullshit sound byte styled format only helps one type of organization, the one that makes highlight reels of debates. When everyone’s ability to express their views is limited to a veritable commercial that is the style of candidate that wins the debate. The person that can package themselves the best.

In isolation, being able to sum up platform and policy in a brief concise manner is useful for any person and an ideal trait for a politician. But taken to the excess that it has only undermines true argument and discourse. There are a couple of flaws with the current system that can help to reduce this problem.

  1. Get rid of the bottom tier candidates. National debates should concentrate on the candidates that are electable. This should be determined by polls and public opinion, not on fund raising or “expert opinion”. But this would also mean people like Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, Tom Tancredo, and Dennis Kucinich would all be cut from the list. Netnuts, get used to it, the nation doesn’t like your fringe candidates. And more importantly it is not for CNN to provide equal coverage to unequal candidates. These people simply aren’t supported.
  2. With the elimination of bottom tier candidates from the major debates, still provide forums and opportunities for their voices. Many national issues come to rise through fringe candidates, and that should not be eliminated. Our airwaves are a national treasure, and all television should shut down during election cycles. However the major candidates still deserve the broadest forum of debates for their views.
  3. Less questions, more time to answer. Pretty simple. Move away from talking points, and move more to a structured topic list.
  4. Let the Candidates actually argue. This is huge, American politics are diluted and evolving into a reality show where viewers just sit and wait for a verbal fuckup. Lets bring back the standards of highly educated and highly passionate candidates.
  5. The moderator shouldn’t be famous, important or consider themselves someone that can limit the conversation. Moderators are only there to keep candidates on topic and prevent petty insults.
  6. Let the questions come from the voters. These are our public servants let their desire for office be bent to public will.

This isn’t a fixed list, but it’s where I’d start. Eliminate the crazies, give the debate to the candidates, let the points of conversation come from the public. I’d also advocate for the debates to come from PBS or CSPAN, or force 20 minutes of every commercial hour be devoted to free campaign related air time, where all properly registered candidates get air time (just not all in a debate).

In an election like this where there are so many running for office the effects of giving everybody a speaking chance result in nothing but failure. As seen with the CNN debates there were no hard questions, and there was no room for a candidate to either defend their stance, or be picked apart by another.

Too many cooks in the kitchen.

If people like Rudy Giuliani and Joe Biden had to argue their points out of more than just a paper bag, maybe, just maybe Americans would see them for how inept they really are. I’m not saying that they shouldn’t be running for president, or that they shouldn’t be allowed a protected forum to reach the American people. I’m just saying that a debate isn’t it. There’s no challenge, no proving that a candidate is crazy. Everyone is letting this election go by like a popularity contest. It’s in the hands of private organizations that have interests in debates as a commodity, not as a public service. Lets protect our debates, and watch these fuckers actually duke it out like they have a pair.

Not only is it easy for Americans to slide into a passive role in watching politics, but most are unaware of the problem, let alone its causes.

Here’s a hypothetical:

Imagine an industry concentrated on the exploitation and distribution of a valuable natural resource. The resource is in limited supply and the industry functions in a monolithic hegemony splitting the market near equally amongst all competitors. The industry arguably has one of the most powerful lobbies in Washington, and has used it’s power to protect market control. The industry has a federal regulation body, but it’s without teeth. The industry has come under investigation for price fixing, monopolistic practices, and overall abuse of the consumer. The industry hides behind claims of “mergers are good for competition” and “the savings will be passed to the bottom rungs”.

This isn’t the oil companies, this is American Media. The fucking monster in the room that has helped to stagnate and rot the most powerful medium for American communication. But unlike with oil companies where profit and production are firmly within the private sector, the airwaves that media uses and controls are firmly and without debate a natural and public resource. It is something that we have total control over.

The debate format must change, it’s a pressure point in the political system where enlightened exchange has been cut off in favor of fast and flashy sound quips. If we continue down the road of structuring our debates to let the best “talking head” win, then that’s the type of president that we will elect.

And if that happens my fellow Americans?

The terrorists have won.

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  • http://eric.langborgh.com Borg Blog

    Critics’ dismissals aside, it turns out that Ron Paul is becoming a real force to be reckoned with in the GOP primaries. See “Ron Paul Contributions Up Ten-fold, Approaching $5,000,000″.

  • http://thesandb.wordpress.com AlvinBlah

    If his popularity is reflected in real polls it will validate his presence in the Debates, but as of now, he’s still a small small fish.

    And money aside. That’s great that he’s raising real dollars, and I’ll be the first to celebrate a rise to the front stage in such a dramatic manner, but he is still unknown to most of the country.

    Only people online know his name, and those that are online and switched on are still in a national minority for citizens.

  • http://www.prosebeforehos.com/StiflyStiferson StiflyStiferson

    I think you raise many good points. Interaction between candidates is a necessity in real debate the absence of which makes the MSM’s incarnation a goddamn joke. However, I think excluding second-tier candidates from the debate does a disservice to the greater good. While their chances of victory may be minuscule, they offer different perspectives which, in addition to broadening the political horizons of a woefully, and systematically uninformed general public, provides for more vibrant discourse between the candidates that would only be augmented if interaction was brought into greater prominence. Though I cant profess to be intimately familiar with the Giuliani-Paul interaction in the Republican debate, I remember Paul raising very valid points regarding American foreign policy as an instigator of dissatisfaction towards America and Giuliani exploiting a political vulnerability by construing Ron Paul’s in the frame of unpatriotic pablum. I like the point you make about the American media being an industry of greater power and potential for corruption than any other. I am more and more considerate of the argument that because the media such a political tool it should, like I believe campaign finance should, fall under public control. State controlled media Ill grant isn’t an appetizing prospect, but if it were under the umbrella of say the civil rights branch of the justice dept. I think it’d be in safe hands. I could be very wrong.

  • http://thesandb.wordpress.com AlvinBlah

    I think that we have become so comfortable with a commercial media system and don’t really remember what it was like before the deregulations of 1996 it becomes easy to assume that a commercial system is the only way that it will work. Our media empire is a system that allows the powerful to favor the powerful.

    However It cannot be fully dismissed simply because it sucks. It is the system that is in place, and we kind of have to deal with it, it’s entrenched. We can’t reject it, we can only change it.

    Which is what I’m advocating with the debates. I think that for debates to function most effectively, as in a manner that creates the best environment for a mediated argument, you cannot have too many people involved. Four at the most. Debates need to be leaner meaner machines. I think the failure of the CNN debates stems more from trying to give all the major candidates an opportunity to speak (albeit unequal amounts of time).

    I also don’t think that it makes sense for candidates that have extreme views, or make outrageous claims to be taken at the same face value as the candidates that have real platforms. When the fringe is taken seriously one loses perspective over real issues.

    Hence needing to reduce the presence of the lower tier candidates from the debate. I agree that Ron Paul got screwed my Mr. 9/11 but that one circumstance doesn’t validate the presence of 10 people trying to have a structured argument.

    I’m also not saying that the lower tier candidates should be removed from the process, but debates themselves are not the proper outlet. Or if they are, the debates need to develop a system where there are less people involved at any given time.

    I’d also like to see cross party debating during the primary season, instant run-off voting, and lower barriers for 3rd parties to gain national momentum, but you’ve got to work within the current strictures, and the easiest thing I see is a separation between candidates in the debate system.

    I think there should still be an open forum system where all the candidates participate, so don’t think that I’m trying to totally undermine the non-mainstream candidates. But I do think that in an electoral based society, for better or worse those that lead the polls get preference.

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