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		<title>All You Need To Know About America In The Middle East</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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When Palestinians do it, it&#8217;s terrorism; when Israelis do it, it&#8217;s self-defense.
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<p>When Palestinians do it, it&#8217;s terrorism; when Israelis do it, it&#8217;s self-defense.</p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s Just So&#8230;.. Complex!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Know: Situation In Nigeria Seems Pretty Complex:

If you&#8217;ve ever had a conversation with a semi-literate Westerner about foreign policy, development, or international relations who doesn&#8217;t want to admit they know nothing about the above subjects, the conversation typically will go like this:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Know: Situation In Nigeria Seems Pretty Complex:</p>
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<p>If you&#8217;ve ever had a conversation with a semi-literate Westerner about foreign policy, development, or international relations who doesn&#8217;t want to admit they know nothing about the above subjects, the conversation typically will go like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>A: What&#8217;s troubling is that development organizations had the chance to fund infrastructure projects in Haiti for several decades that would have minimized the impact of the earthquake and facilitated relief efforts.</p>
<p>B: It&#8217;s pretty complex.</p>
<p>A: &#8230;&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s pretty complex&#8221; provides the blanket response for those outside critical knowledge or analysis of the subject, which is typically followed up by vacantly interjection on sectarian/ethnic/tribal/regional/gender/corruption/cultural divisions to explain their empty platitude:</p>
<blockquote><p>A: The primary failure in the rebuilding of Iraq has been the failure to redistribute available resources and provide mass employment, thus leading to significant rent-seeking outside of traditional spheres.</p>
<p>B: It&#8217;s pretty complex, because Shiites and Sunnis have not liked each other for years and we got ourselves into this mess.</p>
<p>A: &#8230;..</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s pretty complex is the ultimate trump card for the American &#8220;liberal&#8221; who doesn&#8217;t want to feel guilty about the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, but also never wants to get into a serious discuss about the ramifications of a theocratic Jewish state:</p>
<blockquote><p>A: The fundamental problem with a &#8216;Jewish&#8217; state is that it is Jewish-only, meaning Palestinians who have rightful claims to property and livelihoods are being systematically cleansed from their own country.</p>
<p>B: Yes, I feel sort of bad, but it&#8217;s just so complex.</p>
<p>A: &#8230;&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>If you want to see this in action, bring up any of the following topics with White People: Foreign aid, corruption in Africa, sources of resentment in the Middle East, globalization, socio-economic inequality, the Sudanese genocide, Israel/Palestine, the development of post-Soviet Eastern Europe, why poor people vote for Republicans, the brutish reality of capitalism, or the functionality of the United Nations. It&#8217;s guaranteed that within minutes of discussion, &#8220;it&#8217;s complex&#8221; will be made as a valid point.</p>
<p>For great examples, see: <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/01/israels-attitude.html" rel='nofollow'>Israel&#8217;s Attitude</a>, <a href="http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/01/why-is-haiti-so-poor.html" rel='nofollow'>Why is Haiti so poor?</a>, <a href="http://cominganarchy.com/2010/01/14/a-bit-of-realism-please/" rel='nofollow'>A Bit of Realism Please?</a>, <a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2010/01/by-eric-martin--this-excerpt-from-phil-bobbitvia-charli-carpenter-the-newest-lawyer-with-guns-and-moneyis-animportant-con.html" rel='nofollow'>If It&#8217;s War You Want&#8230;</a>, <a href="http://www.progressiverealist.org/blogpost/how-win-war-terror" rel='nofollow'>How to Win a War on Terror</a>, or anything written in the <a href="http://washingtonpost.com" rel='nofollow'>Washington Post</a>, <a href="http://slate.com" rel='nofollow'>Slate</a>, or <a href="http://foreignpolicy.com" rel='nofollow'>Foreign Policy</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Lost War In Afghanistan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;We are here to kick the Taliban out. Why are you not helping us?&#8221;
&#8220;What can we provide for you? You have planes, tanks and guns. What do we have? We&#8217;re simple people&#8230;. If you can&#8217;t win, how can we?&#8221; 

If you don&#8217;t mind hearing dim-witted rednecks say &#8220;governance&#8221; and &#8220;violent Islamic jihadists&#8221; every 20 seconds, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are here to kick the Taliban out. Why are you not helping us?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What can we provide for you? You have planes, tanks and guns. What do we have? We&#8217;re simple people&#8230;. If you can&#8217;t win, how can we?&#8221; </p>
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<p>If you don&#8217;t mind hearing dim-witted rednecks say &#8220;governance&#8221; and &#8220;violent Islamic jihadists&#8221; every 20 seconds, this Frontline video is an exceptional look into how very lost is the war in Afghanistan.</p>
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		<title>Naomi Klein on Boycotting Israel</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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&#8220;It&#8217;s a boycott of Israeli institutions, it&#8217;s a boycott of the Israeli economy,&#8221; the Canadian writer told journalists as she joined a weekly demonstration against Israel&#8217;s controversial separation wall.
&#8220;Boycott is a tactic &#8230;we&#8217;re trying to create a dynamic which was the dynamic that ultimately ended apartheid in South Africa. It&#8217;s an extraordinarily important part of [...]]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a boycott of Israeli institutions, it&#8217;s a boycott of the Israeli economy,&#8221; the Canadian writer told journalists as she joined a weekly demonstration against Israel&#8217;s controversial separation wall.</p>
<p>&#8220;Boycott is a tactic &#8230;we&#8217;re trying to create a dynamic which was the dynamic that ultimately ended apartheid in South Africa. It&#8217;s an extraordinarily important part of Israel&#8217;s identity to be able to have the illusion of Western normalcy,&#8221; the Canadian writer and activist said.</p>
<p>&#8220;When that is threatened, when the rock concerts don&#8217;t come, when the symphonies don&#8217;t come, when a film you really want to see doesn&#8217;t play at the Jerusalem film festival&#8230; then it starts to threaten the very idea of what the Israeli state is.&#8221;</p>
<p>[<a href="http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/06/naomi-klein-in-bilin-this-apartheid-this-is-absolutely-a-system-of-segregation.html" rel='nofollow'><em>via Mondoweiss</em></a>]</p>
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		<title>Obama Confronts The Israeli Lobby</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the latest round of confrontations with the hard-right Israeli government and their Washington-based AIPAC sycophants, Obama has pursued a deceptively forceful manner in dealing with Middle East policy.
As the Freeman appointment proved, you cannot take on the Israel lobby in broad daylight. They are too powerful, too controlling, too knee-jerk in their hysteria to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the latest round of confrontations with the hard-right Israeli government and their Washington-based AIPAC sycophants, Obama has pursued a deceptively forceful manner in dealing with Middle East policy.</p>
<p>As the Freeman appointment proved, you cannot take on the Israel lobby in broad daylight. They are too powerful, too controlling, too knee-jerk in their hysteria to be confronted in a manner that says unequivocally &#8220;you are no longer in the drivers seat&#8221;.</p>
<p>Instead, as Obama has done, the Israel Lobby must be confronted with smiles, with assurances of fairness and dignity for all life, and refrains for peace and prosperity for both Israel and Palestine. But the refrains are now a twist on old platitudes &#8212; peace no longer means Israel inflicting an apartheid state on Palestine, prosperity no longer means increasing settlements for Jewish fanatics in the West Bank, peace no longer means an eager belligerence to wage war on civilians. Most Americans agree on a 2 state solution and humane co-existence until that point, so what serious person could publicly disagree if Obama sincerely pursues it.  Obama&#8217;s words on &#8216;peace and prosperity&#8217; are refreshing because they no longer serve merely as an empty vessel through which Israel cashes its blank check from American power.</p>
<p>I see hope in the new direction of America&#8217;s Middle East policy. We are finally getting serious about insisting on the removal of illegal settlements in the West Bank. Though it is preemptive to say progress will be made, Obama&#8217;s progressive steps in reasserting American sovereignty over its own foreign policy are steps in the right direction towards a two-state solution.</p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong> <a href="http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/05/07/is-obama-taking-on-the-israel-lobby/" rel='nofollow'>Is Obama Taking on the Israel Lobby?</a>, <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/05/rivals.html" rel='nofollow' rel='nofollow'>Israel&#8217;s Nukes</a> [Sullivan], <a href="http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/05/06/israels-nukes/" rel='nofollow' rel='nofollow'>Israel&#8217;s Nukes</a> [Klein], and <a href="http://piglipstick.blogspot.com/2009/05/shitty-little-terrorist-state-to-assume.html" rel='nofollow'>Shitty Little Terrorist State To Assume Exalted Status</a>, </p>
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		<title>The Mythology Of The &#8216;Moral&#8217; America</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know a lot of people are getting hell-bent over the current discussion on torture (I certainly have). But certain elements of this discussion have concerned me, mostly the idea that America has lost its &#8216;moral compass&#8217; during the Bush years and through the torture and extraordinary rendition scandal.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a lot of people are getting hell-bent over the current discussion on torture (<a href="http://www.prosebeforehos.com/word-of-the-day/04/24/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-america/" rel='nofollow'>I certainly have</a>). But certain elements of this discussion have concerned me, mostly the idea that America has lost its &#8216;moral compass&#8217; during the Bush years and through the torture and extraordinary rendition scandal.</p>
<p>To this, I simply respond <em>What moral compass?</em> America, in it&#8217;s 220 years of existence has succeeded precisely because it&#8217;s geo-political and economic strategies have no moral element to them. The short-sightedness of this debate is that the Bush years were some sort of anomaly in the trajectory of American goodness, while the truth is the narrative of America has been one of human rights abuse, economic exploitation, and disregard for the lives of non-Americans.</p>
<p>A small smattering of America&#8217;s &#8216;moral compass&#8217; just from the past 50 years:</p>
<ul>•  Covertly overthrew President Salvador Allende in Chile and replacing him with Augusto Pinochet who would kill and torture over 100,000 people</ul>
<ul>•  Currently providing over $3 billion a year in military aid to Israel while it systemically cleanses greater Palestine of non-Jews</ul>
<ul>•  Currently providing over $3 billion a year to Pakistan and Egypt, despite wide-spread human rights abuses and lack of democratic rights</ul>
<ul>•  Spearheaded efforts to impose a UN Blockade to Iraq, leading to an estimated 200,000 deaths in the late 1990&#8217;s</ul>
<ul>•  Currently providing over $1 billion a year to Saudi Arabia, including $3 million dollars of electro-shock devices used to torture inmates and political prisoners</ul>
<ul>•  Funded and headquartered in Georgia the School of the Americas Assassins (currently named the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation), which trained and armed &#8216;anti-Communist&#8217; fighters in Latin America. These have included dictators and gross human rights abusers such as Bolivia&#8217;s Hugo Banzer and Panama&#8217;s Manuel Noriega.</ul>
<ul>•  Overthrew the democratically elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammed Mosaddeq in 1953 and replaced it with the dictatorship of the pro-Western Shah</ul>
<ul>•  Funded the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, including Osama Bin Laden, to fight the Soviets in the early 1980s</ul>
<ul>•  Provided Saddam Hussein with the chemical weapons he would use to kill over 100,000 Kurds</ul>
<p>And that&#8217;s just a brief list, not including America&#8217;s involvement in Vietnam, the bombing of civilians in Cambodia and subsequent rise of the Khmer Rouge, the use of nuclear weapons against Japan, or the funding and arming of Contra death squads in Nicaragua.</p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong> <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/cliff-may-and-jon-stewart.html" rel='nofollow'>Cliff May And Jon Stewart</a>, <a href="http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/04/newt_trapped_on_torture.php" rel='nofollow'>Newt Trapped On Torture</a>, <a href="http://donklephant.com/2009/04/28/fox-news-khalid-sheik-mohammed-not-waterboarded-that-much/" rel='nofollow'>Fox News: Khalid Sheik Mohammed Not Waterboarded THAT Much</a>, <a href="http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/002940.html" rel='nofollow'>It Does Not Work, But It&#8217;s Fun!</a>, <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2009/04/28/torture-schmorture/" rel='nofollow'>Torture, Schmorture</a>, <a href="http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2009/04/obamas-personal-morality-and-israels.html" rel='nofollow'>Obama&#8217;s personal morality and Israel&#8217;s security</a>, <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzcyNWZhYjI3NWY5OWZjNjAyMTI5YWVjMjBjNWEyN2Y" rel='nofollow'>Two Views on the Torture Debate</a>, <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/24/more-on-those-terror-truth-commissions/" rel='nofollow'>More on those terror truth commissions</a>, <a href="http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=8061" rel='nofollow'>A Seriously Broken Moral Compass</a>, <a href="http://www.mashget.com/politics/2009/04/28/mike-papantonio-right-wing-extremism-history-is-repeating/" rel='nofollow'>Right Wing Extremism: History is Repeating</a>, <a href="http://whatwouldjackdo.net/2009/04/its-about-reclaiming-our-soul.html" rel='nofollow'>It&#8217;s about reclaiming our soul</a>, <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/if-americans-will-not-defend-the-geneva-conventions-.html" rel='nofollow'>If Americans Will Not Defend The Geneva Conventions</a>, <a href="http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2009/04/reining-in-arbitrary-executive.html" rel='nofollow'>Reining In the Arbitrary Executive</a>, <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/29/thomas-friedman-torture-and-invading-iraq-have-prevented-another-911/" rel='nofollow'>Thomas Friedman: Torture and Invading Iraq Have Prevented Another 9/11</a>, <a href="http://medializzy.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/american-naivete-the-ugly-truth/" rel='nofollow'>American Naivete &#038; the Ugly Truth</a>, <a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/good-faith-by-dday-jay-bybee-spoke-for.html" rel='nofollow'>Good Faith</a>, <a href="http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2009/04/use-of-torture-is-a-matter-of-context.html" rel='nofollow'>Use Of Torture Is A Matter Of Context</a>, and <a href="http://reformationfaithtoday.com/2009/04/29/torture-may-christians-endorse-some-form-of-it/" rel='nofollow'>Torture: May Christians endorse some form of it?</a></p>
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		<title>Israel-US Relations Explained In One Quote</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Believe me, America accepts all our decisions. The Obama Admin will put forth new peace initiatives only if Israel wants it to.&#8221; 
&#8211; Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman [quoted in Haaretz]
See Also: Lieberman: U.S. to accept any Israeli policy decision, Lieberman: U.S. to accept any Israeli policy decision, Lieberman: Arab initiative ‘a recipe for Israel’s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Believe me, America accepts all our decisions. The Obama Admin will put forth new peace initiatives only if Israel wants it to.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8211; Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman [quoted in <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1080097.html" rel='nofollow'>Haaretz</a>]</p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong> <a href="http://atheonews.blogspot.com/2009/04/lieberman-us-to-accept-any-israeli.html" rel='nofollow' rel='nofollow'>Lieberman: U.S. to accept any Israeli policy decision</a>, <a href="http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/lieberman-us-to-accept-any-israeli-policy-decision/" rel='nofollow' rel='nofollow'>Lieberman: U.S. to accept any Israeli policy decision</a>, <a href="http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=12666" rel='nofollow'>Lieberman: Arab initiative ‘a recipe for Israel’s destruction’</a>, <a href="http://morris108.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/lieberman-israeli-foreign-minister-first-major-interview/" rel='nofollow'>Lieberman Israeli foreign minister first major interview</a>, <a href="http://piglipstick.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-do-you-like-being-their-bitch.html" rel='nofollow'>How Do You Like Being Their Bitch?</a>, and <a href="http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/04/21/lieberman-us-israels-toady/" rel='nofollow'>Lieberman: U.S., Israel’s Toady</a>.</p>
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		<title>How The World Views Israel Outside of the United States</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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This was recently published and provoked a response from the usual parties&#8230;
See Also: New hard-line Israeli Foreign Minister WARNS CONCESSIONS TO PALESTINIANS will invite war, The World Reacts To Prime Minister Netanyahu, ORWELLIAN ISRAEL, Benny&#8217;s Loose Cannon,  Let the world see Israel&#8217;s true, ugly face, Israel Targets Gaza Mosques, Is it legally apartheid? &#8211; [...]]]></description>
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<p>This was recently published and <a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Oliphant_IsraelGaza_cartoon_called_hideously_antiSemitic_0325.html" rel='nofollow'>provoked a response from the usual parties</a>&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong> <a href="http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/04/01/new-hard-line-israeli-foreign-minister-warns-concessions-to-palestinians-will-invite-war/" rel='nofollow'>New hard-line Israeli Foreign Minister WARNS CONCESSIONS TO PALESTINIANS will invite war</a>, <a href="http://www.theisraelsituation.com/2009/04/world-reacts-to-prime-minister.html" rel='nofollow'>The World Reacts To Prime Minister Netanyahu</a>, <a href="http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?base_name=orwellian_israel&#038;month=04&#038;year=2009" rel='nofollow'>ORWELLIAN ISRAEL</a>, <a href="http://the-mound-of-sound.blogspot.com/2009/04/bennys-loose-cannon.html" rel='nofollow'>Benny&#8217;s Loose Cannon</a>,  <a href="http://windowintopalestine.blogspot.com/2009/04/let-world-see-israels-true-ugly-face.html" rel='nofollow'>Let the world see Israel&#8217;s true, ugly face</a>, <a href="http://iklangede.com/index.php/2009/04/02/israel-targets-gaza-mosques/" rel='nofollow'>Israel Targets Gaza Mosques</a>, <a href="http://mydailyclarity.com/2009/04/is-it-legally-apartheid-apartheid-the-palestine-conundrum/" rel='nofollow'>Is it legally apartheid? &#8211; the Palestine conundrum</a>, and <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/netanyahus-radicalism.html" rel='nofollow'>Netanyahu&#8217;s Radicalism</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Debate On Israel In A Handy Flowchart</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>International Relations</dc:creator>
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See Also: Mr Block: He So Clever, the anti-Semitic accusation as throw-away,
Obama Intelligence Nominee Withdraws, The Israel of the Three Likudniks, Give Me A Break, &#8220;Bad Things&#8221;, Karma (and Charles Freeman) on the Bus, The Fallout from Freeman, The Israel Lobby And Iran, Freeman story makes &#8216;Al Jazeera&#8217;, Aipac and the Lying Liars of the [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>See Also:</strong> <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/03/mr-block-he-so.html" rel='nofollow'>Mr Block: He So Clever</a>, <a href="http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/03/the-anti-semitic-accusation-as-throw-away/" rel='nofollow'>the anti-Semitic accusation as throw-away</a>,<br />
<a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-03-10/obamarsquos-mideast-policy-smackdown/" rel='nofollow'>Obama Intelligence Nominee Withdraws</a>, <a href="http://www.prospectsforpeace.com/2009/02/israeli_elections_a_clarifying.html" rel='nofollow'>The Israel of the Three Likudniks</a>, <a href="http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=18548" rel='nofollow'>Give Me A Break</a>, <a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2009/03/bad-things.html" rel='nofollow'>&#8220;Bad Things&#8221;</a>, <a href="http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/03/karma_and_charles_freeman_on_the_bus.php" rel='nofollow'>Karma (and Charles Freeman) on the Bus</a>, <a href="http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/03/12/the-fallout-from-freeman/" rel='nofollow'>The Fallout from Freeman</a>, <a href="http://d-day.blogspot.com/2009/03/israel-lobby-and-iran.html" rel='nofollow'>The Israel Lobby And Iran</a>, <a href="http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/freeman-story-makes-al-jazeera.html" rel='nofollow'>Freeman story makes &#8216;Al Jazeera&#8217;</a>, <a href="http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/03/11/aipac-and-the-lying-liars-of-the-israel-lobby/" rel='nofollow'>Aipac and the Lying Liars of the Israel Lobby</a>, and <a href="http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/11/five-comments-on-chas-freeman/" rel='nofollow'>Five comments on Chas Freeman</a>.</p>
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		<title>That&#8217;s What She Said</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was a step ahead (though I had actually written the post about 2 weeks ago) in writing that the United States, NATO, and Afghani government should pursue diplomatic talks with the Taliban. And lo and behold, in today&#8217;s New York Times, Afghanistan Tests Waters for Overture to Taliban:
The Afghan government and its allies in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a step ahead (though I had actually written the post about 2 weeks ago) in writing that the United States, NATO, and Afghani government <a href="http://www.prosebeforehos.com/international-relations/10/28/the-sauds-bring-the-taliban-to-the-peace-table-and-the-west-should-too/" rel='nofollow'>should pursue diplomatic talks with the Taliban</a>. And lo and behold, in today&#8217;s New York Times, <em><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/world/asia/30taliban.html" rel='nofollow'>Afghanistan Tests Waters for Overture to Taliban</a></em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Afghan government and its allies in the region have begun approaching the Taliban and other insurgent groups with new intensity to test the possibilities for eventual peace talks, Western diplomats and Afghan officials here say.</p>
<p>The diplomatic approaches have been stepped up over the last several months by the Afghan government, as well as by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, the officials said. They are part of a broad political effort to stem the downward spiral of violence in Afghanistan and the steep decline of public support for the government during a year that has proved to be the bloodiest of the past seven.</p>
<p>Security has deteriorated to the point that a growing chorus of Western diplomats, NATO commanders and Afghans has begun to argue that the insurgency cannot be defeated solely by military means. Some officials in Kabul contend that the war against the insurgents cannot be won and are calling for negotiations.</p></blockquote>
<p>It should be noted, however, that negotiations will not solve Afghanistan&#8217;s problems on the whole &#8212; I see the continued allegiance to the Taliban as symptomatic, rather than the cause of, the failed Afghani state and the lack of serious development and infrastructural progress. And I personally think that the long-term solution towards eradicating groups like the Taliban is in the form of short-term stability, long-term development.</p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong> <a href="http://majikthise.typepad.com/majikthise_/2008/10/the-military-sp.html" rel='nofollow'>Journalist embeds with the Taliban, Bing West can&#8217;t handle the truth</a>, <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/15865/some-background-on-the-karzai-taliban-talks" rel='nofollow'>Some Background on the Karzai-Taliban Talks</a>, <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1854859,00.html?xid=rss-topstories" rel='nofollow'>Will More US Troops Really Help in Afghanistan?</a>, <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/10/iran-no-afghan.html" rel='nofollow'>IRAN: No Afghan peace without Tehran</a>, <a href="http://avari.typepad.com/avari/2008/10/return-of-the-talib.html" rel='nofollow'>Return of the Talib (&#038; Why Neither McCain, nor Obama, &#8220;Get it&#8221;)</a>, <a href="http://www.electricvenom.com/war-bites/defense-transformation-in-the-post-rumsfeld-era/" rel='nofollow'>Defense Transformation in the Post-Rumsfeld Era</a>, and <a href="http://www.theseminal.com/2008/10/30/afghanistan-security-continues-to-decline-in-kabul/" rel='nofollow'>Afghanistan: Security Continues to Decline in Kabul</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Sauds Bring The Taliban To The Peace Table, And The West Should Too</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>International Relations</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two weeks ago in Mecca, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia hosted talks between the Afghani government and the Taliban to begin dialogue on reconciliation between the two parties and reintroducing a large segment of the population into national institutions. Against the grain of American/NATO policy, the Sauds have once again been forced to go behind [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two weeks ago in Mecca, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia hosted talks between the Afghani government and the Taliban to begin dialogue on reconciliation between the two parties and reintroducing a large segment of the population into national institutions. Against the grain of American/NATO policy, the Sauds have once again been forced to go behind Western backs to seek stability in the region.</p>
<p>The situation seems oddly familiar &#8212; one side heralded by the West as part of long-term Middle East democratization, the other derided as a destabilizing, rogue organization that must be excluded at all costs. In February of 2007, the Sauds brought together Fatah and Hamas in spite of fervent American activity to remove Hamas from power, including direct coup attacks in Gaza. Though the Palestinian Unity government would hastily collapse, it showed that &#8216;radicalized&#8217; elements could be brought into governing coalitions in the Middle East.</p>
<p>Like Hamas, the Talibans support is broad-based and entrenched within the socio-political fabric. The forceful strategy of NATO has isolated the Taliban to some degree but has failed to remove supporters or impact its activities, specifically in the Southeast provinces of Afghanistan. With the increased militant activity of the Taliban against infrastructure, any economic development that could potentially decrease the patronage of militant organizations is stymied. </p>
<p>Indeed, top officials in NATO are admitting that the Afghani war is not winnable via military tactics. Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith, Britain&#8217;s top military officer in Afghanistan, has said, &#8220;We&#8217;re not going to win this war.&#8221; At best, he says, international troops can hope to reduce it &#8220;to a manageable level of insurgency that&#8217;s not a strategic threat.&#8221;</p>
<p>For a viable Afghan state to emerge, elements of the Taliban must be engaged and some enveloped into a governing coalition. Lacking the will power and capability to destroy the Taliban by conventional military means, the West must seek out alternative methods of stabilizing Afghanistan. With direct diplomatic talks and promoting carrots over sticks, the West foster development within Afghanistan and allow for future political and social stability.</p>
<p><strong>Sources</strong></p>
<p>http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23612315/how_we_lost_the_war_we_won/print</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/05/afghan.saudi.talks/index.html" rel='nofollow'>Saudi hosts Afghan peace talks with Taliban reps</a>, CNN</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12429524" rel='nofollow'>Solving the Problems of Afghanisan</a>, The Economist</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1849456,00.html" rel='nofollow'>Facing Reality in Afghanistan: Talking with the Taliban</a>, Time</p>
<p><a href="http://japanfocus.org/_China_Hand-The__Coming_Change_of_Course_in_Afghanistan" rel='nofollow'>The Coming Change of Course in Afghanistan</a></p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong> <a href="http://time-blog.com/middle_east/2008/10/woe_is_afghanistan.html" rel='nofollow'>The Woe In Afghanistan</a>, <a href="http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2008/10/a-grand-bargain.html" rel='nofollow'>A Grand Bargain In Afghanistan?</a>, <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/talking-to-the.html" rel='nofollow'>Talking To The Taliban</a>, <a href="http://atlanticreview.org/archives/1198-A-New-Strategy-for-Afghanistan.html" rel='nofollow'>A New Strategy for Afghanistan</a>, <a href="http://cominganarchy.com/2008/10/17/germany-renews-afghanistan-mandate/" rel='nofollow'>Germany Renews Afghanistan Mandate</a>, <a href="http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2008/10/pakistan-afghan.html" rel='nofollow'>Pakistan, Afghanistan, Agree To Talk To Taliban</a>, <a href="http://threatswatch.org/analysis/2008/09/alqaedas-progression-on-pak/" rel='nofollow'>Al-Qaeda&#8217;s Progression On Pakistan&#8217;s Demise</a>, <a href="http://www.juancole.com/2008/10/two-daring-attacks-on-us-troops-in.html" rel='nofollow'>Two Daring Attacks on US Troops in Afghanistan</a>, <a href="http://www.theseminal.com/2008/10/28/afghanistanpakistan-talks-with-taliban-us-air-strikes-nato-hits-its-limit/" rel='nofollow'>Afghanistan/Pakistan: Talks with Taliban, US Air Strikes, NATO Hits its Limit</a>, <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2008/10/bringing_freedom_to_afghanista.php" rel='nofollow'>Bringing Freedom to Afghanistan</a>, and <a href="http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2008/10/report-us-changing-course-now-willing-to-talk-with-taliban.html" rel='nofollow'>US Changing Course, now Willing to Talk With Taliban</a>.</p>
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	The property rights school, a dominant philosophy in development strategies pursued by donor agencies, asks for the rapid legal institutionalization of private property that will theoretically move economies towards pareto efficient uses of resources and expand growth.  However, pursuit of property stabilization as a means to a growth strategy is deleterious, as brisk [...]]]></description>
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<p>	The property rights school, a dominant philosophy in development strategies pursued by donor agencies, asks for the rapid legal institutionalization of private property that will theoretically move economies towards pareto efficient uses of resources and expand growth.  However, pursuit of property stabilization as a means to a growth strategy is deleterious, as brisk institutionalization of private property regimes proved disastrous in a development context and created additional social pressures leading to humanitarian catastrophes.  Further, in the history of the countries that now comprise the ‘developed world’, property stabilization was an elongated, bloody transformation that accompanied hundreds of years of conflict, demographic shifts, intricate adjustment, and political alteration.  To expect a swift, fastidious, and peaceful transformation during property rights stabilization in light of recent history in Rwanda, Nepal, and across the developing world has shown to be not only myopic and intellectually dishonest, but dangerous as well.</p>
<p><strong>2. Why Property Rights Stabilization as a Growth Strategy?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>“Countries with better institutions, more secure property, and less distortionary policies will invest more in physical and human capital, and will use these factors more efficiently to achieve a greater level of income”</em> (Acemoglu, 1369)</p></blockquote>
<p>The property rights school is closely aligned with neoclassical fields objective of growth through liberalization of markets in developing countries.  For those seeking property rights stabilization, this typically means moving towards the final objective of privatization of property.  Theoretically, property rights stabilization will reduce transaction costs and risk, thus increase investment, growth, and aggregate social welfare.  In the words of Bates, “because the formation of capital spans time, the decision to invest entails risk”, so the minimization of risk will stimulate long-term growth (22).  This will be an efficiency maximizing outcome, implying that the framework is neutral as regards to distribution and economically efficient; i.e., simply, unconcerned with distributional inequality as long as net social welfare increases.  </p>
<p>The privatization of state enterprises will also be an efficient advancement, as public enterprises are believed to have poorer performance than private enterprises (Boycko 309).  Analysis stems from the idea that private enterprises are relatively more productive because public enterprises “address the objectives of politicians rather than maximize efficiency” (Boycko 309).  In essence, public enterprises lack the responsiveness, flexibility, and accountability that make private businesses competitive and profitable because they are inhibited by political motivations.  Further, Boycko references several studies that highlight the higher costs of public versus private service in America, the inferior profitability of state relative to private firms in Mexico, and the across the globe phenomena of private firm efficiency (309). Privatization of public enterprises will remove the political problem by reducing information politicians have, which will lead to reduction of subsidies, decrease the enticement for corruption, and enhance incentives for restructuring (Boycko 310).  The critical agency problem is of politicians rather than managers, and “privatization works because it controls political discretion” (Boycko 318).</p>
<p>Empirically, researchers like Acemoglu have correlated long-term growth with property rights stabilization.  Former colonies with higher rates of European settlement are seen to have a strong emphasis on private property rights that have facilitated the industrial rise of countries such as America, Australia, and New Zealand (Acemoglu 1370).  By removing public enterprise and creating a legal framework for private property, developing nations should see ‘overall efficiency improve after privatization’ (Boycko 309). Succinctly, for Acemoglu and others, this means pursuing an economic policy that attempts to replicate the institutional success of the ‘neo-Europes’ into the developing world (1370).  </p>
<p><strong>3. The Theoretical Shortcomings of Property Rights as Growth</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>The real problem with the GKI and World Bank positions is that by failing to identify the real protagonists in possible future conflicts, these models are not even assisting the initiation of a political debate.</em>” (Khan, 77)</p></blockquote>
<p>Theoretical considerations of property rights stabilization suffer from several disparities and gaps in their conceptualization.   In the paradigm of stable property rights, the argument is one of historical prevalence of economy efficiency, rather than a more historically visible political or social process riddled with contestation.  While Demsetz and Coase see an economic outcome arising from the economic man, property rights have proven to be an unequal distributive process that often lowers social welfare. The functionality of property rights stability is seen as a cause of, instead of an outcome of, capitalist growth. However, the emergence of stable property rights more properly should be seen as coincidental with advanced capitalism in Western countries, rather than creating growth in its own right. </p>
<p>In the arguments of Barzel and other property rights thinkers, property right stabilization will drive efficiency through profit seeking which investment and technology drives. However, in the developing world, political rent seeking – in the form of corruption, strikes, legal manipulation, and other institutional maneuvering – may be more accessible and cheaper than investing in technology to attain the same level of returns.  This situation will inherently mean individuals will invest in political in lieu of technological investments to raise their outputs. Criticism of this fallacy extends to the institutional and bureaucratic capability of developing countries successfully to enact such expansive reforms. As Bates concisely remarks, “Too often, in the developing world, politicians fail to induce the selection of policies that offer attractive prospects to investors and institutions too rarely impose limits upon those who would use power to prey upon the wealth of others” (107).   Perilously, the factions that emerge to compete for this political capital are often be divided along the colonial era fault lines, creating the potential for the explosively brutal situations the world has repeatedly witnessed in Rwanda, Malaysia, and across the developing world.</p>
<p>In the conclusion of the property stabilization process, total social welfare should theoretically rise from adjusted incentives, reduced transaction costs, and improved economic growth.  However, raised social welfare may derive from the relative increase of welfare of the few at the expense of the many, where prior wealth may be the main determinant of property distribution in ‘reformed systems’.  Class antagonisms will inherently increase, and in the words of Khan, “this is hardly surprising since those who stand to lose from system change are hardly likely to be comforted by the fact that society in aggregate will be better off” (7).  The explicit process of land privatization and redistribution is extremely delicate for those in the developing world, especially sub-Saharan Africa, where the majority of the population engages in small or subsistence agriculture.  Redistribution of lands will often leave those reliant on agriculture for basic needs landless and further disempowered, hence more prone to conflict mechanisms for grievance reconciliation.  </p>
<p>The framework suffers in general from trying to apply complex processes witnessed in the developed world that are historically and socially misinterpreted.  This is reflected in the reliance by theorists on utilizing recent examples in the West – inefficiency of public sector in America and Boycko’s ‘success stories’ of privatization reformers in Great Britain and the Czech Republic – to justify instituting a like policy in the developing framework. By focusing on the policies of the West, the complexities and realities of the developing world are discounted to the detriment of the property stability model and the developing nations such thinking is thrust upon.</p>
<p><strong>4. Empirical Examples: Property Stabilization for the Developing World</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Aggressively championing plans for rapid economic development, political elites in the developing world used their control over the economy to organize the polity, distributing patronage in order to stay in power… The politics of patronage gave way to democracy, on the one hand, and on the other, political violence.</em>” (Bates 100)</p></blockquote>
<p>Stabilization efforts in developing countries often undermines social cohesion, traditional and local balances, and ignites conflict, stemming from externally-imposed policies that lack indigenous legitimacy and effective internal enforcement mechanisms.   Still grappling with ineffective governance and multifarious remnants from colonialism, developing countries can lack the appropriate institutional or social frameworks to enact such far-reaching property stabilization programs.  The privatization of property often leads to the demonopolization of violence in developing nations, creating a militarization that Bates terms as “the private provision of coercion providing security only within the penumbra of violence” that “can work, it can produce peace, but the peace it produces is unstable”  (47, 49).  Indeed, examples used from the past by the privatization school, specifically Acemoglu, typically disclude the experience of original habitants of the success stories of colonial history, such as the near-genocidal treatment of Native Americans in the Americas or the aboriginals in Australia.  In the following cases, government efforts became empty legalities without appropriate and corresponding enforcement mechanisms, leading to inefficient economic outcomes, environmental degradation, intense society-wide violence, and propelling a Wild West mentality to land, resources, and other humans.</p>
<p><strong>4.1 Property Stabilization and Conflict: Rwanda in the 1980’s and 1990’s</strong></p>
<p>Rwanda in the late 1980’s pursued agricultural commercialization in conjunction with a privatization strategy under the tutelage of the World Bank, a significant measure as 92 percent of the population worked in the agricultural sector (Storey 52).  The program resulted in increasing levels of land inequality where richer elements were able to amass larger land holdings at the cost of mass displacement of large segments of rural population (Storey 54).  Low levels of violence riddled the transformation from the onset, where the lack of enforcement or observational mechanisms allowed a milieu where violence and coercion determined property rights.  By 1994, 25 percent of the population was landless, one in six were affected by famine, kilocalorie production per farmer decreased by 25 percent, and even in areas untouched by violence, PCGDP had fallen by 35 percent a year (Storey 50, 54).  </p>
<p>Following rural collapse, the system of hierarchical structure through tribes, exploited by Belgian colonization, reemerged and strengthened as political factions in the Rwandan democracy (Storey 36). This manifested itself through group confrontations between Hutus and Tutsis. Land hunger became a motive factor in the social sanctioning of conflict and political contestation that took on an increasingly ethnic coloring (Storey 54). In the words of Storey, “inequality, and its corollary – landlessness, certainly added to the situation of what Uvin terms ‘structural violence’ from which more direct violence then flowed” (54).  The subsequent political collapse and civil war was directly attributed to the adjustment program by thinkers like Chossudovsky, who witnessed “a state administrative apparatus in disarray, state enterprises in bankruptcy, and the total collapse of public services”, leaving little room for peaceful negotiation or alterations. While the property adjustment program does not capture the entirety or complexities of causation of the Rwandan genocide, it does illustrate that pressures stemming from property stabilization programs can often unleash violent and uncontrollable consequences.</p>
<p><strong>4.2 Environmental Consequences of Property Stability: Nepal</strong></p>
<p>Since attempts to nationalize forest areas began in 1957, Nepal has shifted from nationalization to semi-privatization to local management, only to return fully to the community based management system in the past decade after severe environmental depletion.  Forestry represents the dominant land use system with 29 percent of land covered by forest, with an additional 10 percent covered by shrub (Acharya 150). Forests are an integral part of the farming system and are heavily depended on for subsistence farming by providing multiple functionalities, including animal fodder and bedding, firewood, agricultural implements, and timber for building (Acharya 2).  More than 80% of the population depends on subsistence farming, meaning forests are important from a socio-cultural and economic standpoint (Acharya 149). </p>
<p>Shift in policy began in 1957 when forests were nationalized as an attempt by the Nepalese government to maximize resource utilization to widen the tax base and increase food production (Gautam 136).  Though a massive bureaucracy was created and stringent laws were promulgated, the nationalization process lacked local enforcement apparatuses. Subsequently, massive deforestation and environmental ruin occurred (Gautam 136).  After the apparent failure of the nationalization experiment, Nepal moved into a quasi-privatization program in the mid-1970’s. Acharya evaluates the system of privatization in Nepal as imbalanced and prone to manipulation, saying “privatization is more conducive to dominancy of forest properties by members of the elite, though centralized methods also may limit participation, misappropriate power, and not address concerns of poor and marginalized groups” (10).  Privatization also appears to have lowered incentives for sustaining what were once shared resources and unveiled an open access mentality to the forests. Forest resource conditions in areas privatized are relatively worse compared to those in collective or centralized institutional arrangements (Acharya 10).  From 1979 to 1994, Nepal lost approximately 14 percent of forest and shrub cover (Gautam 142).</p>
<p>In the past decade, Nepal has moved to a community forestry program that empowers user groups to regulate local forestry, reminiscent of the indigenous systems in place before 1957 (Gautam 146). This has met with several successes, including reversing the deforestation process, institution building, and economic benefit to local people, as a result of what Gautam views as “institutions built upon established systems of authority” that allowed for successful monitoring and enforcement mechanisms (146).  Indeed, for the first time in three decades, the annual rate of change in forest and shrub cover has increased (Gautam 142).  In a process that spanned five decades, Nepal enforced a range of property stabilization techniques, only to learn that various attempts to institute policy without sufficient local legitimacy proved malevolent to environmental and economic outcomes.</p>
<p><strong>4.3 Property Right Stabilization &#8212; At What Cost?</strong></p>
<p>Alterations to property carried out en masse, whether privatization or nationalization, lead to an unequal redistribution of rights often politically disadvantageous and socially volatile.  Indeed, while Nepal’s and Rwanda’s experiences do not typify the occurrence of property stabilization, the property stabilization program is one that largely has failed to bring substantive and positive change to the developing world.  When one reflects that in developing nations, subsistence agriculture is often the main occupation of most inhabitants, enforcing privatization can mean depriving households of basic livelihood. Contestation and conflict over this ‘advancement’ does not seem exceptional but rather inevitable. Where Bates says ‘insecurity is far too often the norm’ that maintains underdevelopment, it is ironic that such property security programs have continued to destabilize states and hinder growth.  In essence, asking regimes lacking in institutional legitimacy in developing nations to carry out vast economic programs will necessarily lead to unstable outcomes.</p>
<p><strong>5. Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>Though an important long-term goal, stabilization of property rights is a tenuous process that requires precision, time, and most importantly, legitimacy deriving from the appropriate backing of local and regional enforcement mechanisms.  Property stabilization advocates, having misunderstood the history of the industrial world’s own great transformation, mistakenly believe that the application of such schemes can be replicated in the developing framework in the interest of economic development. While Western aid agencies and the property rights school may show a disinterest in the social processes that accompany the private property transition, destabilizing social and political processes will accompany the enactment of property stabilization efforts in the developing world.  Recent history has shown that attempts to alter property rights through structural adjustment programs can lead to environmental dilapidation, political fracture, and mass violence.  The moral implications and human costs of such policies are far too real and tangible to allow property stabilization measures to continue as a foundation for growth strategy in developing nations. </p>
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<p>Acemoglu, D., Johnson, S. and Robinson, J. A. (2001). The Colonial Origins of Comparative Development: An Empirical Investigation. American Economic Review. Vol. 91 (5): 1369-401. </p>
<p>Acharya, K.P. (2002). Private, Collective, and Centralized System of Institutional Arrangements in Community Forestry in Nepal. Presented at &#8220;The Commons in an Age of Globalisation.”</p>
<p>Acharya, K.P. (2002). Twenty-four Years of Community Forestry in Nepal.  International Forestry Review. Volume 4 (2).</p>
<p>Barzel, Yoram. Economic Analysis of Property Rights. Chs. 5-6.</p>
<p>Bates, Robert H. Prosperity and Violence: The Political Economy of Development. W.W. Norton.</p>
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<p>Coase, R. (1960). The Problem of Social Cost, Journal of Law and Economics 3 (1): 1-44 </p>
<p>Gautam, AP., Shivakoti, and Webb. (2004). A Review of Forest Policies, Institutions, and Changes in Resource Condition in Nepal. International Forestry Review. Volume 6 (2).</p>
<p>Hussein, K., Sunberg and Seddan (1999). Increasing Violent Conflict between Herders and Farmers in Africa: Claims and Evidence. Development Policy Review. Vol. 17, pp. 397-418. </p>
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<p>Storey, Andy (1999). Economics and Ethnic Conflict: Structural Adjustment in Rwanda. Development Policy Review, Volume 17.</p>
<p><strong>See Related:</strong> <a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/09/24/hey-korea-you-may-miss-being-a-developing-country/" rel='nofollow'>Hey Korea, You May Miss Being a “Developing” Country…</a>, <a href="http://atlasnetwork.org/adriatic-institute-vs-the-world-bank/" rel='nofollow'>Adriatic Institute vs. the World Bank</a>, <a href="http://www.advice-4u.info/when-financial-institutions-collapse/" rel='nofollow'>When Financial Institutions Collapse</a>, <a href="http://smoothstoneblog.com/2008/09/state-sanctioned-incitement-to-genocide-what-can-be-done.htm" rel='nofollow'>State-Sanctioned Incitement to Genocide: What Can Be Done?</a>, <a href="http://mande.co.uk/2008/topic-bibliographies/transparency/international-aid-transparency-initiative/" rel='nofollow'>International Aid Transparency Initiative</a>, <a href="http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/himalayan-region-to-adopt-environment-friendly-technologies/" rel='nofollow'>Himalayan region to adopt environment-friendly technologies</a>, <a href="http://globalissuesweb.com/wp/?p=8068" rel='nofollow'>Poverty and Inequality</a>, <a href="http://blogs.cgdev.org/globaldevelopment/2008/09/poor_in_developing_countries_a.php" rel='nofollow'>Poor in Developing Countries are Victims of Our Mistakes (Development Impacts of Financial Crisis)</a>, and <a href="http://globalisation-and-the-environment.blogspot.com/2008/09/rich-to-pay-poor-to-preserve-forests.html" rel='nofollow'>Rich to pay the poor to preserve forests?</a></p>
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