What The Fuck Is Wrong With America?

Ms. Noonan – You are a breath of fresh air!!. Thank you for saying what we all should have been saying these last few days. Criminal acts are criminal acts. No one is above the law and we must uphold our legal and moral standards.

Thank you again.

That pretty much sums it all up, whats disgusting, is that this is why we left our homeland, to leave this type of bullshit behind. But here we are, a good half of the bush admin needs to be jailed, we need to star the slow proccess of regaining all that was lost in the last 100 years.

I am not sure if I am alone here, but I would gladly give up living in the lap of luxury to have my rights and freedoms back again, anyone with me on this?

just wanted to point out that none of that stuff youre angry about (and im angry about, too) has changed since Obama took office. its not going to change under his administration either. he cant prosecute Bush and his friends for that stuff because then he’d have to prosecute himself for the same shit.

America: you want REAL change? then get it right and elect ron paul in 2012

Clinton was a sleazeball that lied about something under oath. Bush should be prosecuted, but let’s not say that one lie under oath is ok and another is not.

Clinton lied to us, you, me, your mom, your dog, and jesus were he real. He AND Bush deserved impeachment.

Great post, makes me think.

RT – the border is open in both directions. If you are ashamed to be American, no one is is water boarding you to stay; get out.

you idiot! clinton wasn’t being prosecuted for having extramarital sex, he was being prosecuted for lying on the stand. get your facts correct.

Many of you on here should be the ones giving the BJ’s you certainly have the mouths for it. I have always been told the use of vulgar language is a sign of not having anything intelligent to say. I can make my point here with a minimal amount of offensive language. Since I am one of the few who would be offended it makes it really easy. I am far short of being a perfect moral being but that really was not the issue in the end for Clinton. He lied under oath and that gave the mob a good exscuse to impeach him. I am not a Republican and certainly not a Democrat. I am the leader of a new party called the grass roots party. We pride ourselves on having minds and thoughts that are completely our own. What’s more is we rarely agree on anything except Republicans and Democrats alike are corrupt in their own right. We are centrists and dislike and distrust both parties equally. America has truly missed our chance to be leaders in the world because we cannot even decide on a direction we ourselves want to go much less a direction to lead the world. Finally G.W. Bush was the last President we will ever have that even cares if you respected him. So go ahead and rail away on him because we are all about to be rewarded for our failure to support a strong America. We are now making our enemies our friends and our friends our enemies. We will soon be alone in this world, bankrupt and without true leadership. Go Ahead and try to prosecute Bush and you will find just how misleading that 20% popularity poll is.
Oh yeah one last thing if America is so virtuous then why did we imprison our own citizens in WWII simply because of their heritage. If you think those ‘internment’ camps were not torture maybe you should visit one for your next vacation. America has the right, no the duty to do whatever leadership says in a time of war to protect and properly defend it’s citizenry. That is all now go back to your whining and sedition.

Torture apologetics, whats next?

What happened to trying to better yourselves? What happened to the dream of a better humanity. That maybe we could shake this nasty nature of ours — trying to survive at all costs.

Keep your protections. If you’re going to torture, I’d rather be blown up thanks. I won’t carry your sins for you. Nor will I justify your stone-age morality. Evolve dammit.

You lefties keep trying to gloss over this, but the fact is that Clinton wasn’t prosecuted for banging the fat chick, he was prosecuted for lying about it under oath. If he’d been smart enough to say “fuck you, I’m not answering that question”, he would have been fine, but NOOOOO, he had to try lying about it. If Bush had perjured himself, you could get him the same way, but he didn’t, so you can’t. Go cope.

Let take your advice and remember the ridiculousness of the Clinton investigations. But let’s remember that the 3 year investigation of a consensual blow-job happened because first congress began to investigate a shady real estate deal that happened in Arkansas when Clinton was governor. So that’s what happens when Congress investigates wrongdoings, they use it as a political vehicle to attack the other party.

Now onto torture. Who do you want to prosecute for torture? What law do you want to prosecute them for?. The CIA followed the legal opinion (which was flawed) of the justice department on a matter that was not clearly defined in the law. The courts have recently ruled that those justice department legal opinions were wrong and the CIA has shut down its “enhanced interrogation” methods that were justified by the memo. Democracy and the judiciary system worked. The administration that supported torture is out and the courts ruled their actions were illegal and thus torture has stopped.

The executive has to always operate in gray areas of law under the guidance of the justice departments interpretation of law. They have to act before the courts can rule on those interpretations. We can’t prosecute the justice department for drafting an interpretation that the courts struck down. If we did every past administration could be prosecuted for something. That’s what they do in banana republics; attack their predecessors. A massive congressional investigation into the subject would be just that.

Give me a specific person who violated a specific law and we can talk prosecution. As far as an open inquiry into the matter; lets not start a witch hunt that will drag on for years and probably lead to something entirely unrelated as in whitewater. it seems to me the ending of the program and courts ruling on the matter are sufficient.

Ask any family of the 3,000 plus if they think it is unjust to “water-board those even remotely responsible for their family to be crushed to death under tons of concrete, or to watch them fall to their deaths as they jump from 100+ stories?

If my son was one of those who died trying to save those left screaming in the buildings what do you have to say to me? Why do you think I care about your useless twattell on the internet eight years after the fact? How old are you? whould you even know his name if you hered it read aout loud?

Your anger is that of someone who is young (born since 1982)and middle class parents. You don’t know suffering. You live vicariously through the sufferings of others. That makes you the worst kind of Vampire. (I bet you like Twilight, didn’t you?)

such is life. people like myself must bear witness to some of the least intelligent men and women in this country spew forth the most foolish drivel every day. and there’s nothing people like myself can do, for they are so far gone already.

not even the cleverest, best-thought-out retort on their part will ever change reality. and, of course, the most poetic, eloquent words i can muster will ever be heard by these fools.

even so, your words and illusions shall continue to flow forth from your mouths like oil… and blood.

the most pathetic part of it all is that no one will know on which side of this pathetic “disagreement” i am. this is how blurred the line between right and wrong has become. YOU sicken me.

such is life.

LOL, it depends what the meaning of the word “Is” is. By every common sense definition of the word he perjured himself. There is not a jury on the Planet that would have disagreed. He knew exactly what he was denying when he swore to the American People that He “did not have sex with that woman.”

Are you saying it is okay to lie to the public about matters under oath as President? Is that our standard of Truth for the highest office?

America is a country full of religious idiot drones who do what they’re told, think what they’re told, and attack any American who rocks the boat for God and country (aka big business and their political henchmen).

Is this current situation really surprising? I’m more surprised there are any intelligent people left in America who can’t see the ship is sinking and get out while they still can.

What kind of country do we live in where people who are allegedly so concerned with the rule of law, due process for suspected terrorists, say for people they hate “throw them in the dock already.” Strange internal intellectual inconsistency.

Torture has a legal definition which acts must fit before it is a crime. Too complicated for you to read so I will spare you the site. Requires “specific intent” mens rea of the accused. But um “throw them in the dock.” We live in a country where people want to give Consititutional rights for suspected terrorists and want to dispense with those same rights for people they hate.

Oh and newsflash, you mental midget, Clinton wasn’t prosecuted for getting a blowjob, he was prosecuted for multiple acts of perjury during sexual harrasment cases. Apparently, some people are above the law when it comes to women’s rights, as long as you like the accused and hate the accuser. Your post is simply internally inconsistent and shows your real beef is not about laws and the consitution its about revenge against people you politically hate.

Last think, when you say “illegal” have some fucking basis, e.g. a verdict, a case, otherwise its your own opininion and legally it has no import, much like yourself.

Get off Obama’s dick. He is allowing the same wiretapping Bush did. And Nancy Pelosi knew full well that water boarding was approved for use and did nothing about it until now shes claiming she didn’t know it actually happened… Yet didn’t care that it was an option because she is the two faced lying representation of the democrats in congress.

And of course it goes without saying Clinton was prosecuted for perjury you ignorant fuck. That is illegal. Stop hating Bush and open your eyes to what the current administration is doing. Use some of your almighty insight and criticism that you exercise so well on the past administration with the current one.
If this country is so damn terrible please do us all a favor and get the fuck out. You are entirely welcome to pack up your shit and get out if its so terrible.

Please don’t say “everyone” despised Bush. That kind of generalization simply isn’t true, and personally, I don’t want to be grouped with you as part of an “everyone” anyway.

Kilgatron: Either apparently you can’t read, or you one of those “don’t confuse me with the facts” individuals. I don’t think your post contained a single fact, this will not serve you well in life, unless you come back to reality and deal in “real life.” Clinton was charged for comitting perjury, not for getting a blowjob. That is the one fact in my post for you. Can you do the same? Just include one fact such as “I am scared, although its not factually accurate, that you can get charged for GIVING a blowjob in the U.S., because I was on my knees for Clinton many times.” Say a fact like that, again, all I require is a single fact in a post. Yours had none, bj boy.

The country is called America I believe.

Honestly,
Your rant makes me smile, not because it expresses how I feel, but because it is so pathetically ignorant and obnoxious. You think you’re from the tolerant party that can “elect a black man into office” and “stop terrorism through words” but you need to come to reality. We were attacked by terrorists because the Middle East has an unstable government. We’re not there to save the civilians. America could care less about the people of the Middle East. We’re there to ensure we don’t get fucking attacked again. Grow a pair and realize that your ranting is just a continuation of your sore-loser tendencies (honestly, it sucks you lost TWICE and couldn’t manage to change government on your own) so you should probably do something worth your time. Why do you think none of this has stopped since your messiah Obama has come into office? Probably because he has received intelligence (you know, stuff they can’t tell the public because pricks like you who hate America/want us all to die will use it to ‘free the middle east and liberate the terrorists!’) and he’s realized “shit, fuck the terrorists we’re in deeper than I ignorantly thought when I ran for office” and now we’re still in the situation. So shut the fuck up and leave the politics and intelligence to the elected officials who actually know what they talk about. If you want change, try to not lose so often (or elect officials who actually know what their doing during a time of WAR)

I am not ashamed of my country, but am ashamed of the pansy ass people who live there. We are talking waterboarding! It’s not decapitating, mutilation, pulling out fucking finger nails. WTF America? Are we one big giant pussy waiting to get fucked by other countries? No one is going to take waterboading serious, period. They laugh at us already. IT’S WATERBOARDING for christ sakes! I guess if that doesn’t work we should just threaten them with a good ol’ “Time Out”. What the fuck ever America! You little cry baby bitches make this nation look weak. Shut up already.

YAH WHAT A BUNCH OF PUSSIES! WATERBOARDING IS FOR ALL-STATE QUARTERBACKS AND PROM QUEENS! AND ANY OF YOU NERDS WHO GET IN THE WAY OF OUR MASTER PLAN TO GET A FULL RIDE TO DATE RAPE UNIVERSITY BETTER WATCH OUT!!!!!